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macacic
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USA
1968 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2008 :  12:42:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by grengliman

I'm not 100% sure what trolling is. Could you please give a short definition so I do not respond to posts of that nature?

Trolling refers to the practice of dragging a fishing lure at low speed to see what it might hook.

On forums, trolling refers to posts which are insulting or inflammatory and are designed to "hook" a reader into responding in anger.

In our present case, that would include posting "LOL!" or "you fools" in a response.
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macacic
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USA
1968 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2008 :  12:43:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lover of Monasticism

You, however, are attacking the Gregorian calender and those who use it, flaming left and right and acting very immature.


As previously stated, Orthodox do not use the Gregorian calendar but the Revised Julian.
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Lover of Monasticism
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USA
919 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2008 :  13:13:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Right. Sorry.
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theinformer
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Australia
86 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2008 :  05:03:50  Show Profile  Click to see theinformer's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Macic you have denoted on how the "typical" person would response to provokative words that are as you call inflammatory and insulting.They make you feel angry? christians should be responsive to those words in that way, didnt apostle paul say dont get angry?,those who do so may suggest they have limited patience and other things/
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Yiorgos75
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Australia
461 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2008 :  05:19:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No offence man, but you're an idiot.

Please don't get angry otherwise you'll be showing you don't have patience..."and other things".

Edited by - Yiorgos75 on 05/08/2008 05:19:37
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theinformer
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Australia
86 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  09:35:37  Show Profile  Click to see theinformer's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thats ok george im not affected by your insults.But we shouldnt have anger at the things that dont deserve it.I meant that christians SHOULD'NT be responding in that way when someone has provoked you.Maybe they insulted and abused you physically and verbally, but this is a test of our everyones patience-god wants to see our patience, to see how we can sustain the assualts."Do good to those who do evil to you".
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Aristokles
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USA
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Posted - 05/09/2008 :  10:06:33  Show Profile  Visit Aristokles's Homepage  Send Aristokles a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Apparently you do not understand Yiorgos75's response, Chris.

How long have you been communicating in English; is it a first language for you?
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theinformer
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Posted - 05/09/2008 :  19:27:39  Show Profile  Click to see theinformer's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ive been conversing for a bloody long time mate.I can see he clearly disagrees with my saying that anger shows lack of patience.
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Aristokles
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Posted - 05/09/2008 :  22:14:18  Show Profile  Visit Aristokles's Homepage  Send Aristokles a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Well, pal, you missed his irony, as I expected.

Perhaps you should power your computer off and go to church.
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grengliman
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USA
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Posted - 05/09/2008 :  23:26:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
theinformer, why do you continue to spark argument here? You are not qualified to debate with the folks you are engaging, sorry but it is obvious. I suggest read the Bible first and then the Holy Fathers.

This thread was started to obtain a cross section of Orthodox Christian's opinion on the subject of ecumenism and Orthodox participation in ecumenical charismatic gatherings (I still am interested in this discussion if anyone is as well). Any chance we can get back to that? We understand how you feel about heterodox and some of your Orthodox brethren.
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ICXCNIKA
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Posted - 03/07/2010 :  22:16:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ecumenism is the pan heresy according to several Saints. We should not sit down with others and pretend that our Tradition is of Equal merit as their. We need to preach and convert them. We have been given the pearl of a great price! I know many catholics and protestants that refuse to even think about joining the Orthodox Church because they think we are all the same because of our involvement in ecumenism.
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Aristokles
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Posted - 03/08/2010 :  15:41:58  Show Profile  Visit Aristokles's Homepage  Send Aristokles a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
But as usual, whenever "ecumenism" is charged on Internet fora, the argument goes no where as o no one can define it exactly. "False" ecumenism versus ecumenism, that would be a good start. Any takers?
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alexey
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Russia
104 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2010 :  16:54:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On ecumenism. The Church is always One and can not be splitted the branches, chance is to apostate from the Church, yes it is. I guess people in the West (mostly) do not feel it clearly. Am I right?
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grengliman
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USA
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Posted - 03/08/2010 :  17:34:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aristokles has asked for our definition of "false ecumenism."

I would suggest that false ecumenism is the concept that by blending different ideas held by different Christian and non-christian religions about the Creator into one syncretic religion, we will arrive at the "truth." This is a heresy of utmost proportion to be sure.

This phenomenon is experienced to some degree in the Protestant sects, where they have differing theological outlooks, yet categorize doctrine by degrees of relevance. This is a lesser form of the greater heresy "false ecumenism."

There is but one Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is neither relative nor subjective. It is the Gospel that leads to eternal life. It is the spotless faith of the Holy Apostles and is realized in the world by the Church that Jesus Christ established and is guided by the Holy Spirit. This is the Orthodox Church.

Proper ecumenism is the involvement with people of other creeds and religions, bearing witness to the Apostolic faith. Leading, by the example of divine love, people who wish to find deeper communion with Jesus Christ to His Church.



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alexey
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Russia
104 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2010 :  17:59:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm sorry, but I cant even differentiate "false" and "proper" ecumenism. I know what ecumenism is in its negative essence. In the Russian Church this word sounds generally quite offensive now.
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