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BILL P
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 Posted - 01/09/2010 : 15:36:27
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| THANK GOD THIS WEBSITE UNDERSTAND MARK STOKOE'S AGENDA! AN IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRUTH! ITS ABOUT SLANDERING GOOD PEOPLE! I THINK I WAS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE UNITED STATES THAT WENT TO MARK STOKOE'S CHURCH, AND HELD A BANNER THAT SAID "MAKE A CHOICE" LOVE AND FORGIVNESS! OR MARK STOKOE WEBSITE WHICH PREACHES HATRED! I HOPE THE PEOPLE IN HIS CHURCH ARE UPSET WITH HIS WEBSITE! AND THE DAMAGE IT HAS CAUSED THE CHURCH! HOWEVER THE LATE BISHOP JOB ENDOSED IT, INSTEAD OF SHUTTING DOWN! IPRAY THE NEW BISHOP WILL SHUT IT DOWN! |
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parascheva1014
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BILL P
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Posted - 01/11/2010 : 20:04:40
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O.C.A. Hierarchy and members,
We must pause to examine our actions upon turning towards a new year. The egregious behavior that came from within ourselves victimized the very humble within our midst. Being guilty, as the masses within the orthodox community, I can only pray forgiveness from the individuals of the Orthodox Church for the unfounded persecution wielded by a sharp tongue. The intense bleeding of theses loving souls shares an example for all to take lesson. These persecuted Christians managed to continue to serve the Orthodox Church under false accusations, and provide comfort to those of us around them.
If fact we all should have been providing comfort to these persecuted individuals.
As the findings of the special investigative committee reveal no findings of wrong doing, the past will haunt our comfort in the future. We must not regress into denial of what must be done. We must correct the hasty actions from individuals who spearheaded this witch-hunt. The Orthodox Church must reinstate +Herman, and Archdeacon Klimitchev to the positions where God's hand originally placed. It was the intervention of the Evil One, through man, who displaced these martyrs.
We must urge, or furthermore insist, the individuals come publicly to ask forgiveness of these persecuted, and make public the acknowledgment of actions and words spewed unfoundedly. Obviously the extreme efforts of multiple investigative committees, along with public agencies to find wrong doing have come empty handed. In the aftermath it has left many loyal people bruised, and family members confused as to their Christianity. How dare we become judges and cast punishment before accurate facts are revealed. Should we expect this type of treatment from God. Of course not, how absurd. If there is theft, embezzlement, fleshly sins, among other accusations? If so present the facts. There is none. The most wrong doing may only be some sloppy accounting practices. If this is the case we all are guilty of this within our own personal finances from time to time.
+Herman, and others please forgive my hasty belief of the word put forth by the corrupt. Please consider the actions as human, and embrace the Orthodox Church as you did before.
Martin
#5 Martin Fraves on 2009-12-27 19:56 (Reply)O.C.A. Hierarchy and members,
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parascheva1014
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Posted - 01/11/2010 : 23:50:34
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| Bill this last post is a little out of context. Are you asserting that no corruption of the OCA actually happened, because if you are I think that's a bit of a stretch. I don't agree with the way Mark does things but the evidance speaks for itself, there were gross financial misdealings. I think that Metropolitan Herman was correct to resign. |
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BILL P
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Posted - 01/12/2010 : 11:40:40
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For those of us who know Metropolit Hermanan, know that he resigned for one reason, so that the church could move forward, Did Mt Herman steal one dime? yet the last two years he has been under house arrest! He is not permitted to go to the Monastery Church to pray, which he served in for so many years! Is this christian? Martin Fraves wrote this beauty message on stokoes website! Martin shows us what a true orthodox christian is all about! and its about "love and forgiveness
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the good soldier
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Posted - 02/07/2010 : 01:57:49
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The problem I have with this response is that the Metropolitan maybe did not spend all of this money and do these misdeeds, but he sat back and allowed them to happen.
He is responsible because he did nothing. He sat back and allowed the future of the OCA to be spent away and now it is doubtful that it will ever be what it once was or could have been.
People can call me as they see it, but if there had not been any corruption we would have never ever seen a site like Mark's necessary. |
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parascheva1014
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 12:29:37
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I agree that there may have been a place for Mark's site with the OCA thing particularly because the OCA treasurer came out and said there was a problem and an OCA Bishop was calling for people to do something as well.
My issue is that the site has transformed into a personal propaganda machine directed at the Antiochian Archdiocese, particularly the Metropolitan in a way that is uncalled for and in a way that most Antiochian's don't support. |
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